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Comments on: Watts Up With That? Tour hits an obstacle: the truth. http://www.climateshifts.org/?p=5498 Science, climate change, coral reefs and the environment Mon, 31 Mar 2014 21:57:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.8.25 By: Lord Monckton Returns on Alex Jones Tv 1/5: Climate Policy Deception | FrontPageSearch http://www.climateshifts.org/?p=5498#comment-1752 Tue, 21 Jun 2011 17:36:47 +0000 http://www.climateshifts.org/?p=5498#comment-1752 [...] http://www.climateshifts.org/?p=5498 [...]

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By: admin http://www.climateshifts.org/?p=5498#comment-1103 Sun, 25 Jul 2010 22:44:47 +0000 http://www.climateshifts.org/?p=5498#comment-1103 The reason the word is used as a noun is because “denier” means “person who denies something” (note for future reference: “something” does not mean “holocaust”)

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By: monnie http://www.climateshifts.org/?p=5498#comment-1102 Sun, 25 Jul 2010 14:08:19 +0000 http://www.climateshifts.org/?p=5498#comment-1102 Somewhere I thought the term “denier” was a person who disregards the existence of the Holocaust. Not as a simple word but almost a phrase in itself to describe a person in denial one of most brutal genocides of the last century.
I see this word used many times within the the above comments. What is the reason?

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By: Phil M http://www.climateshifts.org/?p=5498#comment-1101 Sun, 27 Jun 2010 00:15:13 +0000 http://www.climateshifts.org/?p=5498#comment-1101 Hi Phil M; I take it you are referring to John E of my my current town and state, Chapel Hill, NC.

No, I was talking about this one, I mistakenly added the “s” on the end:

http://www.johnedward.net/

I hadnt actually heard much of the John Edwards political campaign & any controversies except the extra marital affair.

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By: John B http://www.climateshifts.org/?p=5498#comment-1100 Fri, 25 Jun 2010 23:57:29 +0000 http://www.climateshifts.org/?p=5498#comment-1100 Hi Phil M; I take it you are referring to John E of my my current town and state, Chapel Hill, NC. I agree completely; he took us left-wingers in almost to a Monkton-esque degree. I remember having a big fight with my right-wing parents defending poor John-boy was I a dope on that one. He has turned into the laughing stock of Chapel Hill and we all shudder to think of what would have happened had he been nominated or elected. We all have to be vigilant of such hucksters.

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By: Phil M http://www.climateshifts.org/?p=5498#comment-1099 Fri, 25 Jun 2010 03:19:37 +0000 http://www.climateshifts.org/?p=5498#comment-1099

Monckton on the other hand sells newspapers. People seem to like Monckton for the showbiz element, and don’t really care much about the specifics of what he’s saying as long as it sounds like something that agrees with their general world view.

He is is similar to Bjorn Lomborg. Quite enigmatic & entertaining. They draw people in like the Nuremburg rallies, Jonestown ( cool aid), Benny Hinn & John Edwards. People rarely ask questions & ignore that little voice that says so much here just isnt adding up.

It makes me wonder how to deal with the Monkton effect

I believe he is dealing with the Monckton circus himself far better than we ever could. With statements like this on the Alex Jones show.

2:42 “They still intend to take freedom & democracy away forever & president Obama & the administration will do everything they can to make sure the UN re- the global government is cemented into place, so that your constitution will no longer matter & so that freedom, democracy & prosperity will be gone forever”

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By: ianam http://www.climateshifts.org/?p=5498#comment-1098 Fri, 25 Jun 2010 01:06:16 +0000 http://www.climateshifts.org/?p=5498#comment-1098

Nice selective audio, Ove. I was there and can say that I agree with everyone else who saw your performance – totally unprofessional for a scientist. You tried to hijack the Q & A session, and while your selective audio says otherwise, I’m sure there are plenty of mobile phone videos to provide evidence to your unprofessional behaviour.

Yeah, you’re sure there is evidence that supports you even though the evidence available does not. How typical of a “skeptic”.

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By: Phil M http://www.climateshifts.org/?p=5498#comment-1097 Thu, 24 Jun 2010 23:13:30 +0000 http://www.climateshifts.org/?p=5498#comment-1097 You beat me to it Jerry ;). More on the Wegman hearings here:

http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2006/07/the-missing-piece-at-the-wegman-hearing/

So Phooey, would this incestuous, corrupt backslapping occur in EVERY scientific discipline do you think, or just the one that you are ideologically opposed to?

On the topic of lack of women, you dont think it would have anything to do with that fact that there are far more men who take on science as a profession than women? Here in Australia they have been actively campaigning in schools for years to halt the declining numbers of men AND women taking on science as a profession, let alone women.

If the peer review process is deeply flawed and hopelessly dated. What do you suppose we replace it with? Set up a WUWT/Climate Audit website for every scientific discipline & let the amateurs have it? A dumbing down of scrutiny so that if it doesnt make sense to the layman, then its no good?

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By: jerryg http://www.climateshifts.org/?p=5498#comment-1096 Thu, 24 Jun 2010 17:28:37 +0000 http://www.climateshifts.org/?p=5498#comment-1096 See http://deepclimate.org/2010/04/22/wegman-and-saids-social-network-sources-more-dubious-scholarship/ for more on Wegman.

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By: Phooey http://www.climateshifts.org/?p=5498#comment-1095 Wed, 23 Jun 2010 20:52:00 +0000 http://www.climateshifts.org/?p=5498#comment-1095 A newer effect of the corrupt closed paper literature ‘peer-review’ process which I discussed in (2) above is that we now see the interesting new phenomenon which one could could call ‘author inflation’.

People like Hansen, Mann, Santer, etc (including some who blog here) love to surround themselves with huge numbers of coauthors, sometimes two dozen — sort of like a cheer squad section!

The contribution of most of these ‘authors’ is invariably highly obscure and simply the reflects the success of the core authors (read little Napoleons) in building up their acolyte numbers to further degrade the (possible) independence of any peer review.

These largely male mutual backslapping networks (admittedly sometimes including the occasional token female), the existence and nature of which existence was brilliantly discussed by Wegman, further distort the already deeply flawed and hopelessly dated ‘peer-review’ process.

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