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Comments on: Resisting the Green Dragon http://www.climateshifts.org/?p=5919 Science, climate change, coral reefs and the environment Mon, 31 Mar 2014 21:57:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.8.25 By: Jeremiah Griffin http://www.climateshifts.org/?p=5919#comment-1599 Tue, 24 May 2011 05:05:17 +0000 http://www.climateshifts.org/?p=5919#comment-1599 Resisting the Green Dragon (RTGD) claims to be an exposé on the modern environmentalist movement, casting its supporters as touting a hidden agenda to promote “pagan” ideals and, ultimately, to gain global political dominion. Contributors to this series assert that environmentalists hold unbiblical views of humanity’s place in creation amongst other creatures and that God’s exclusive concern is for human souls. But upon closer inspection, many of their claims prove scripturally and theologically problematic, and in an age when our planet’s biological health truly hangs in the balance (think BP oil spill or Japan’s nuclear accident), such irresponsible perspectives are dangerous and need to be challenged.

To see my full response to this film visit: http://jeremiahgriffin.blogspot.com/2011/05/scriptural-and-theological-defense-of.html

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By: Lena http://www.climateshifts.org/?p=5919#comment-1229 Mon, 31 Jan 2011 10:54:26 +0000 http://www.climateshifts.org/?p=5919#comment-1229 As a Scandinavian Im very puzzeled by this battle between religion/environmentalism/politics. Why not keep things seperate for a clearer vision?
Is there anywhere I can watch or buy this “Resisting the Green Dragon”? I would like to explore the topic more. Thanks – Stay Green :-)

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By: Steve S http://www.climateshifts.org/?p=5919#comment-1228 Fri, 31 Dec 2010 02:21:14 +0000 http://www.climateshifts.org/?p=5919#comment-1228 Christianity is not a dangerous religion, environmentalism is. The idea that you want to spend billions of dollars on a problem that may or may not exist hundreds or thousands of years in the future – when we have people dying of poverty now….you would just be pushing more and more people into poverty with $10.00 gas prices and 40% increases in electric costs, and huge transporation cost increases for all the goods we buy, which would come back to us…Environmentalists have a VERY BAD track record when it comes to dire predictions. Why should we believe them now? In the 70′s, it was global cooling that was supposed to destroy us. Weathermen can’t predict two days from now accurately and we want to try to trust them with predictions for hundreds of years?

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By: Casey Pittman http://www.climateshifts.org/?p=5919#comment-1227 Mon, 20 Dec 2010 18:31:41 +0000 http://www.climateshifts.org/?p=5919#comment-1227 This is why christianity is a dangerous religion.

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By: John Bruno http://www.climateshifts.org/?p=5919#comment-1226 Tue, 26 Oct 2010 02:18:31 +0000 http://www.climateshifts.org/?p=5919#comment-1226 I know: talk about TOO MUCH CRAZY! It has occurred to me that this is a hoax from the Colbert Report.

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By: Megan Evans http://www.climateshifts.org/?p=5919#comment-1225 Fri, 22 Oct 2010 00:25:05 +0000 http://www.climateshifts.org/?p=5919#comment-1225 This is all kinds of nuts. Another example of people using religion as an excuse to push a stupid agenda. I find some solace in the fact that there are non-crazy religious folk out there who clearly recognise the ecological limits of the planet, and the impact that climate change is having on the poor.

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By: John B http://www.climateshifts.org/?p=5919#comment-1224 Thu, 21 Oct 2010 00:30:43 +0000 http://www.climateshifts.org/?p=5919#comment-1224 Thanks! Talk about TOO MUCH CRAZY! I keep wondering if this is a hoax. At least we don’t have Bob Carter…

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By: OveHG http://www.climateshifts.org/?p=5919#comment-1223 Wed, 20 Oct 2010 23:00:35 +0000 http://www.climateshifts.org/?p=5919#comment-1223 I feel for the embarrassment that many of my rational American friends must the experiencing!

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By: Tim http://www.climateshifts.org/?p=5919#comment-1222 Wed, 20 Oct 2010 00:14:30 +0000 http://www.climateshifts.org/?p=5919#comment-1222 I’ve often run up against the first point, regarding ecosystem resilience and about protecting the poor.

As if increasing desertification events and extinction rates don’t speak for themselves, an excellent paper by Fischer, Lindenmayer and Manning (2006) makes it quite clear that ecosystem resilience rely on keystone species protection and avoiding islandisation among other things. There’s simply no evidence that God gave us a world to exploit without detrimental consequences, but ample evidence to the contrary.

As for developing nations, just looking at 2 recent papers; Giam et al(2010)[doi:10.1016/j.biocon.2010.04.019], and Vörösmarty et al (2010) [doi:10.1038/nature09440], I’d suggest that they are most at risk, not only to climate change, but also adopting unsustainable practices from developed nations over the coming century. Protecting the poor means helping them avoid our previous mistakes. Much of the discussions and suggestions made by different groups who identify climate change as a major concern over the coming century also acknowledge that one of the top priorities is a sharing of wealth from developed nations to developing nations to help assist adaptation.

Hypocritically, this Cornwall Alliance is urging business as usual which comes with continuing the ignorance of struggling nations.

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